Bongo Appliance Users – new Bongo Experimental Packages in the rPath repo

I have been working on getting the svn build of Bongo into the rPath repo for users to try.

I have now completed that and the newest build of bongo is available in the 0.40-devel repository.

Please be aware that this version has only been tested on rPath 2 and so cannot be used on rPath 1 systems.

Please also remember that the webmail UI and admin side of things is currently broken so if you are not comfy running command line tools with Bongo please don’t upgrade.

Let me know if you find any problems

Bongo Experimental Packages In Rpath Repo


I remember I said to myself this year I will get the svn build for Bongo into the bongo repo on rpath. It has taken a awhile but I now have the 0.4 svn version available in the repository. I will also be creating a few VM’s of the experimental new Rpath 2 version of the Bongo appliance.


The Web UI is no longer working so if you use that do NOT update to this version.

Linux Live

On Friday and Saturday I was lucky enough to have gone to Linux Live in Olympia London UK and work the stand with Alex. As Alex has blogged the show was very quiet and it seems the .org village was an afterthought to the organisers.

As Alex said in his blog I think that there was not enough advertising and the show we were paired with was the wrong one as the two user groups had completely different interests and priorities. I saw many a creative user swagger confidently into the area and you can see how his facial expression changes from complete confidence to utter fear step by step as he walks further. When he can’t take it anymore a swift about turn on the heel and almost sprinting he leaves and sighs a huge sigh of relief when he finds himself amongst the apple logos.

This scenario was played out over and over again for the two days I was there. Many of the other OSS people I spoke to were also under the impression that this would be their last excursion into London. This is a great shame as I think LinuxWorld and LinuxLive could have been a great way to bring the communities together.

Now that my rant is over I would like to mention the positive things that I and I think Bongo took from this expo.

I learned that I am actually not petrified of people and talking to them, I actually started enjoying the challenge of finding the expertise level for a interested party and then tailoring the pitch to their level, but when they started talking arrays and memory management etc… I just passed them on to Alex.

Not having a working Web interface was a big stumbling block in the demo stakes as many people were keen to see what it looked like and you can only do so much with the admin interface. J

I learned about the freebie hunter and their mating habits.

Bongo made some great contacts regarding potential collaboration with some big projects out their.

I learned about how great a database postgresql is (it helped that their stand was next to ours)

I also found the angels pleasant to watch as their small hands worked the kinks out of the shoulders of many a client (I still wish I had gathered the courage to book myself a session)

As this was my first outing as an exhibitor I believe I will have much more fun now I know how the other side feels when I go to more of them.

I think the biggest benefit was that Alex and I had many hours in the day to chat about Bongo and just plain shoot ideas at each other (the be honest it was more Alex shooting ideas and me looking stunned or lost), which is invaluable to a project like ours where brainstorming is a key player in what we do.

All in All I was impressed and disappointed at the same time. We need marketing material to hand out we need business cards and we need to have a working solution that we can show people.

Andy it might be time that we resurrect the Bugle again.

Over 7000 Downloads

This evening Stu Gott dropped a bombshell on me, not literally but it had a similar impact. The guys at rPath have run a report on our little project and I was shocked to say the least when I found out that the Bongo appliance has been downloaded 0ver 7000 times. I seem to remember thinking this is a nice small project for me to help the Bongo-Project with, it will never take off as much as the packages that Andrew and the others are creating but will allow me to do my part.

Well to say the least I was sceptical as you can guess but then he pasted these stats for me to look at.

| ReportforProject |
| Bongo            |
| Downloads | ImageType       |
|   2917    | INSTALLABLE_ISO |
|      4    | LIVE_ISO        |
|   1002    | MICROSOFT_VHD   |
|      1    | RAW_HD_IMAGE    |
|   1090    | VMWARE_ESX      |
|   1891    | VMWARE_PLAYER   |
|   1040    | XEN_IMAGE       |
|      1    | XEN_OVA         |
|   7946    | NULL            |
| Downloads | Month | Year |
|     15    | 08    | 2007 |
|      4    | 09    | 2007 |
|     40    | 10    | 2007 |
|    384    | 01    | 2008 |
|    821    | 02    | 2008 |
|    732    | 03    | 2008 |
|   1048    | 04    | 2008 |
|   1249    | 05    | 2008 |
|    938    | 06    | 2008 |
|    961    | 07    | 2008 |
|    812    | 08    | 2008 |
|    634    | 09    | 2008 |
|    308    | 10    | 2008 |

I had to add up the totals myself as I could not believe it was that much. But true to form the total was 7000 which is a great achievement.

I cannot continue on without mentioning the guys who keep this project going I am not going to mention names as I my memory is so bad that I would forget someone. THANKS GUYS!!!!!!!

I feel like I have won and Oscar or something like that.

This has not been a chore to do as I have been learning as we have gone along and without Stu Gott’s help I am sure I would still be pulling my hair out. What shocks me more is that people are downloading us even though we say that it is not quite ready for use yet.

I am sure we will break all types of records when we release version 1.0 and it is something I look forward to. There is still many hours of programming and packaging ahead of us and we will continue doing what we do best looking after our baby as it were.

I almost forgot to add that I want to that all the people who have downloaded The Bongo appliance and also the other packages for being interested and also for trying us out. We are getting better and better.

I have run out of words to say………


Busy Bees

Well it has been a while since the Bongo team has released a version and there is good reason for this.

Over the last few months since the release of 0.3.0 the developers have been rewriting a large proportion of the store code. Alex realised that the old one was not as efficient as it could be when there were large volumes of mail stored in the system. This actually started when it was discovered that when using IMAP and connecting to your mail account if you tried to move large volumes of mail around it would error out or worse. The store is now almost done and the branch and trunk should be merged soon.

The other Alex has been bevering away at a new web front end for Bongo. After we had tried to fix what was broken in the old one we decided that the best way forward was to completely rewrite the whole thing. Now I don’t profess to know a whole lot about the subject but I know that it will be much easier to manage and work with which will make it easier for other people to contribute to the project.

I have probably summarised this far to much but I thought it best to let people know what we are doing.

As far as the Bongo appliance goes Stu and I have been working on a new incarnation of the appliance based on rPath Linux 2. This new version will allow us to utilise the newest version of rPath for the creation of the appliance. I have been working on other projects that have allowed me to gain valuable experience in the rPath packaging method and this will make it easier for me to administer and add features to the appliance.

Andy has been working on getting the Opensuse Builder to build a larger number of packages for different distributions and he has also packaged an experimental version of Bongo from svn. I hope to have that done soon for the appliance as well.

Lin has been busy bevering away at fixing and adding documentation to the wiki and I would like to say THANK YOU to him for all the work he has put in.

I hope I have not missed anything and if I have please let me know so I can add it to this post.

New Laptop

I have eventually been able to get a 64bit laptop.

Which means I will be able to package for Foresight Linux, Rpath and the Bongo Project again.

I feel I have been neglecting all my projects somewhat, hopefully when it arrives I will be able to package some great apps.

Live CD Wiki Page

I have finished the Live CD wiki page and I thought I would put it out there for you guys to have a look at and comment on.

You can find a direct link here

I have added images and some help text. This page is aimed at a person who just wants to look at what we are doing without actually installing the software.

I would welcome any comments or ideas on the page so please let me know I have also started on the other pages that can be found here

These pages are going to be there as part of the Bongo Help environment or at least that is where I see them fitting in. Comments and help on those would be welcomed too.

Vmware image complete

The Bongo-Project Vmware image is now complete

I have been able to create an image that will allow Bongo to be evaluated and tested.

I have put the torrent file on my web server the address is As I create new files or downloads I will add them to the list on this server.

Please download the file and keep it seeding